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+---- Thread: Ricochet Fixes + Steam (/showthread.php?tid=2998)
Ricochet Fixes + Steam - Guest - 09-12-2003
So, I got to thinking... if all the mod stuff is streamed through Steam... are we still gonna be able to fix shit? Or is it gonna be a case of, sorry guys, you did a good job, but we couldn't be arsed accomodating you....
for those wondering if I sound a li'l narked off, I am... this Steam stuff is proving to be crap so far, despite the added benefits of registration, etc.
Ricochet Fixes + Steam - [CAKE]anonymity - 09-12-2003
thats a good point, and all the stuff that kermit.asm did was going to be in vein, but all we can do now is hope.
Ricochet Fixes + Steam - Gwarsbane - 09-12-2003
Now you guys are realizing what I have been going on about. I think Steam is a HUGE mistake.
Ricochet Fixes + Steam - _Acid_Head_ - 09-12-2003
There's a petition against steam that already has 10k signatures.
Ricochet Fixes + Steam - Guest - 09-12-2003
someone should provide a link on here for those that never really venture out side our forums:)
Ricochet Fixes + Steam - Quickening - 09-12-2003
Yes I will gladly sign that petition..this stuff is BS..:angry:
Ricochet Fixes + Steam - Gwarsbane - 09-12-2003
I'll sign it, and I will put it up on a few forums for others to sign it too.
Ricochet Fixes + Steam - evil_admin - 09-12-2003
I have been reading the feedback from both the coder side and the admin side...it is running about 50 to 1 against STEAM...no suprise there.
There seems to be a good news/bad news thing when it comes to Ricochet.
Only Valve-sanctioned mods are currently supported through the STEAM updates, of which Ricochet is not one of them. What that means is that when STEAM updates the server files it re-writes the llibgame file is overwritten. However, botman is looking into this as this also affects major plugins like MetaMod, etc. so if this is fixed we can set up Ricochet, with our own fixes and continue to play.
We may not want Valve to sanction Ricochet as they will most likely be overwriting the dll file and will certainly not actually do any updates.
I am going to try to set up a STEAM server this weekend to see how bad it wil end up being to get a mod up and going.
Ricochet Fixes + Steam - Guest - 09-12-2003
I kinda thought it'd be down to that lib file, after all it's what adminmod/metamod uses to hook the dll's into the server. As for being against them... i'm not surprised... they should have said, hey... it's shit, lets update it and push it back... but they won't... because of hl2...
Ricochet Fixes + Steam - _Acid_Head_ - 09-12-2003
Here you go:
http://www.petitiononline.com/nosteam/petition.html
Ricochet Fixes + Steam - Guest - 09-12-2003
11194 Signatures Total
Now that sams sommat....
Ricochet Fixes + Steam - Power and Glory - 09-12-2003
It could have a million sigs it's not going to change anything.
Ricochet Fixes + Steam - Guest - 09-12-2003
So have you signed? 11342 Total Signatures
in the space of time since I did!
Ricochet Fixes + Steam - Power and Glory - 09-12-2003
Nope.
Ricochet Fixes + Steam - PuNkGirL - 09-12-2003
12607 it grows fast
Ricochet Fixes + Steam - Guest - 09-12-2003
12855 Total Signatures
Maybe it's slowing down a li'l now?
Ricochet Fixes + Steam - Gwarsbane - 09-12-2003
12988 now
Seems to to getting alot of people to me.
Why haven't you signed yet power? You like steam?
Ricochet Fixes + Steam - Guest - 09-12-2003
oh lets not get into STEAMwars...
Ricochet Fixes + Steam - _Acid_Head_ - 09-12-2003
It may not change anything, but at least you're voicing your opinion. It's a free country:)
Ricochet Fixes + Steam - jabbahunt - 09-12-2003
I say if it kill CS, it can't be that bad.
Ricochet Fixes + Steam - Power and Glory - 09-12-2003
I don't care for Steam either but it is here so we have to deal with it. I'm sorry if I am one of the lucky ones where Steam has been working relatively fine. I am not going to sign something that has no purpose. I agree with Acid that you should voice your opinion. I however do not have to sign a petition to voice mine.
Ricochet Fixes + Steam - Guest - 09-12-2003
That sounds almost obstinate of you... as if you are saying that the rest of us are just mere folk, and because you haven't had a problem, you don't care.
Ricochet Fixes + Steam - Power and Glory - 09-13-2003
What the hell would you like me to do? If you feel good signing a petition then go ahead. Like Acid said it is a free country so I choose not to sign a petition. I'm sorry if I have a differant OPINION than you. Sure I feel bad that it is not working for you hopefully things will work out.
Ricochet Fixes + Steam - Guest - 09-13-2003
Hey, I was just givin' ya a hard time for standing alone... even if it'd been perfect, I'd have still found fault with it (I'm a brit - and they didn't get it right).
Ricochet Fixes + Steam - Wha? - 09-13-2003
Hmmm... anyone know where valve HQ is? We can get some serious attention then. Suddenly we aren't intangible lines of text, our words carrying as much weight as other people's feelings do for a llama. Just spread the word: Protest @ Valve HQ on <date in a few months>
People will show up, valve won't be happy, and I get to feel good about not being legally responsible for my own plan.
Ricochet Fixes + Steam - Guest - 09-14-2003
Unfortunately, there's no way I am coming across half the world for one day ;-) But, it's a good plan for those that are over there...
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Record created on 02-Nov-2002.
Database last updated on 14-Sep-2003 07:55:54 EDT.