03-18-2003, 06:48 PM
Well, reading the earlier post by netniv on being frustrated that we took this debate into the server, and I thought that this is the most appropriate spot for it.
Ok, we all know the situation. Now we know Bush put his foot down, and Saddam refused the ultimadem, and now war in inevitable. I'll throw my position out there. One, I think that was a very good speech by Bush. It explains very well why we're going to war, and it should quiet down the argument that we didn't try everything before war. We've been waiting 12 years for Saddam to follow the peace accord... he's had increased pressure on him since 9/11... still he does follow the accord (which states he must disarm, destroy weapons, and allow inspections). Finally, he now got a 48-hour warning, where he can choose to leave or not. Can we all agree that we don't want a megalomaniacal mass-murderer with weapons of mass destruction to remain in power? He could leave, his troops could surrender, and war would not happen. He's inviting war, and therefore signing his death warrant. Now what's happening is people are equating it to Vietnam, or saying people are going to die, stuff like that. Well, guess what? People have been dying at Saddam's will for decades. His own people, and people who have died as a result of the terrorists his country harbors and trains. If we ignore it, let the UN sit around and talk, nothing will get done, and he will most definitely use his weapons. It's not as if we're going to some random country to kill people, we're attacking a regime which is a direct threat to the entire Western world. It is nothing like Vietnam, as Vietnam was a dumb war because we were only going in to contain communism in a country that meant nothing to us, posed no threat, and felt too overconfident about. In Iraq, even though there is no direct link to al-Qaeda, they do have the weapons and terrorist cells to cause chaos wherever they wish. They pose a threat to the entire Middle East, Europe, and perhaps US via terrorists in the future. Many want to wait until we get attacked before we attack them... they want a smoking gun. What if the smoke from that gun is in the shape of a mushroom cloud? Shall we wait for a massive terrorist attack? If Saddam or the terrorists he supports attack, they will use weapons of mass destruction... meaning biological, chemical, or nuclear. I don't want that, folks. I believe in killing a few to save many.
I've yet to see one alternative to war. No one has said anything. They yell about war being bad, but what's worse, dealing with an evil on this planet using force, or just letting it stew and concoct? The UN isn't doing anything. France and Germany are against it because of their economic interests, which is fine, but it doesn't answer any problems. We've waited 12 years. Diplomacy has not worked, and it never will in Iraq Time for this to come to an end.
And by the way, Bush is not a moron. How many of you graduated from Yale? Just because he is not a slick speaker like Reagan or Clinton doesn't make him of lesser intellect. He's doing what he feels is best for our country, and I support the actions that are currently in progress.
-BMac
P.S. Let the debating commence.
Ok, we all know the situation. Now we know Bush put his foot down, and Saddam refused the ultimadem, and now war in inevitable. I'll throw my position out there. One, I think that was a very good speech by Bush. It explains very well why we're going to war, and it should quiet down the argument that we didn't try everything before war. We've been waiting 12 years for Saddam to follow the peace accord... he's had increased pressure on him since 9/11... still he does follow the accord (which states he must disarm, destroy weapons, and allow inspections). Finally, he now got a 48-hour warning, where he can choose to leave or not. Can we all agree that we don't want a megalomaniacal mass-murderer with weapons of mass destruction to remain in power? He could leave, his troops could surrender, and war would not happen. He's inviting war, and therefore signing his death warrant. Now what's happening is people are equating it to Vietnam, or saying people are going to die, stuff like that. Well, guess what? People have been dying at Saddam's will for decades. His own people, and people who have died as a result of the terrorists his country harbors and trains. If we ignore it, let the UN sit around and talk, nothing will get done, and he will most definitely use his weapons. It's not as if we're going to some random country to kill people, we're attacking a regime which is a direct threat to the entire Western world. It is nothing like Vietnam, as Vietnam was a dumb war because we were only going in to contain communism in a country that meant nothing to us, posed no threat, and felt too overconfident about. In Iraq, even though there is no direct link to al-Qaeda, they do have the weapons and terrorist cells to cause chaos wherever they wish. They pose a threat to the entire Middle East, Europe, and perhaps US via terrorists in the future. Many want to wait until we get attacked before we attack them... they want a smoking gun. What if the smoke from that gun is in the shape of a mushroom cloud? Shall we wait for a massive terrorist attack? If Saddam or the terrorists he supports attack, they will use weapons of mass destruction... meaning biological, chemical, or nuclear. I don't want that, folks. I believe in killing a few to save many.
I've yet to see one alternative to war. No one has said anything. They yell about war being bad, but what's worse, dealing with an evil on this planet using force, or just letting it stew and concoct? The UN isn't doing anything. France and Germany are against it because of their economic interests, which is fine, but it doesn't answer any problems. We've waited 12 years. Diplomacy has not worked, and it never will in Iraq Time for this to come to an end.
And by the way, Bush is not a moron. How many of you graduated from Yale? Just because he is not a slick speaker like Reagan or Clinton doesn't make him of lesser intellect. He's doing what he feels is best for our country, and I support the actions that are currently in progress.
-BMac
P.S. Let the debating commence.