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Abortion
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Oh come on Freefall....give us a 'hotter' topic!! :P

I have been on both sides of this debate. Throughout my dark years which some call 'college years',
I was always pro-choice along with pro-everything-else-that-was-against-God. I even had a girlfriend
when I was 19 who got an abortion. My wife has been through the same thing. Now as a Christian I
look at it from a new pair of eyes. We as humanity think we are in control of our lives...that we are our
own gods and control our own destiny. Well, you are partly right, you do control your destiny by making
the YES or NO choice to through faith follow God. God gives life to us. He gives us children as a gift. They
are not ours...they are a gift. They are not the property of the mother nor activist judges. God entrusts
us to care for the children while they are temporarily here on earth. At the moment of conception, that
embryo is a soulfull person. The Bible states in the book of Jeremiah:
Quote:Jeremiah 1:5  Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations.
All sins have equal weight except for one..which has unpardonable consequences. Abortion is murder. Everyone speaks of 'RIGHTS'....and 'PROTECTION'....well, what about the protection of a defenseless embryo. The new ultrasound technology out
now allows people to see a 3-dimensional image of the developing baby.
Quote:Pictures and video from the new technology show that an unborn baby can stretch, kick and leap around the womb much earlier than had previously been thought.
Quote:They show the stretches, yawns, even smiles and frowns,
In this man centered world, it's a 'if it feels good, do it'. "By ALL MEANS, don't do ANYTHING that might cause you emotional grief like have a baby.' 'With all the grief in the world, why would I bring a child into it.'

ALL COP OUTS! People not wanting to live up to responsibility. Cowards! Oh wow...I might have to work more to pay for a child...or I might have to get....gulp.....MARRIED. Grow up and get a pair guys. You should pray everyday your parents didn't
go and let the abortionist puncture your skull and vacuum you out. You just got lucky eh?

Christians believe that all those aborted babies are in heaven right now waiting on their mother's to join them one day. That is if they make it to heaven. I know that I have 2 children waiting there right now and I am so anxious to meet them and tell them
that I am sorry for doing what I did. I will have eternity to make it up.

King David had an affair with a woman named Bathsheba and they had a son. God punished David and took that child from him.
David says that the child won't return to him, but he will go to it one day.
Quote:2Samuel 12:22  And he said, While the child was yet alive, I fasted and wept: for I said, Who knoweth whether Jehovah will not be gracious to me, that the child may live?
2Samuel 12:23  But now he is dead, wherefore should I fast? can I bring him back again? I shall go to him, but he will not return to me.

I'm not here to debate politics and agendas. I am here to speak out for the millions of children who aren't making it out of the womb. You think they would have it bad our here?? They are getting slaughtered right in their warm, safe places....another 'slaughter of the innocents'. I have 2 kids now and I can't imagine life without them. Yes it was AND IS NOW tough but when men stand up and be men and take care of their kids...then the women can be the best mothers THEY can be also.

Jesus was very clear how he felt about children. They are the MOST important people he was with. He said we must ALL be like them in our faith to even enter heaven. He also gave very stern words in all 4 gospels:
Quote:Matthew 18:6  But whoso shall cause one of these little ones that believe on me to stumble, it is profitable for him that a great millstone should be hanged about his neck, and that he should be sunk in the depth of the sea.

Don't let the activists paint a grim picture of 'all the women who died in backalleys with coathangers' in the no abortion days. Those numbers were rediculously low but they don't talk about that now. Yeah....there are stupid so-called Christian activists also
who use violence to make a point. THESE PEOPLE ARE NOT CHRISTIANS! Jesus says you can see if people are doing his work by their fruit. Evil for evil is NOT fruit of a Christian. I love people who still value abortion as Jesus commands me. I think abortion is murder and of evil men but it is up to the Spirit of the Lord to touch these people's hearts.

The greatest commandment is to love the Lord your God with all your heart. The second greatest is love your brother like yourself. Those brothers for me include pro-choice people but also includes those unborn lives who desparately need us to
give them a chance.

Oh yeah....I had a shocker last night. My wife is pregnant. I spent hours reading the Bible and asking God what to do. I told Him
that I was suppose to be happy but was feeling trounced. I opened the Bible and read Proverbs verse:
Quote:Proverbs 3:5  Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding.
This morning on the radio station I listen to (KLOVE), they had a commercial on and it quoted that exact verse.
He works in His own way.

I'm thinking of maybe....Adam or Peter for a name.:thumb:
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Messages In This Thread
Abortion - by FreeFall - 08-18-2004, 08:05 AM
Abortion - by PIX - 08-18-2004, 10:31 AM
Abortion - by PIX - 08-18-2004, 12:12 PM
Abortion - by brokend - 08-18-2004, 03:53 PM
Abortion - by PIX - 08-18-2004, 04:04 PM
Abortion - by Gwarsbane - 08-18-2004, 05:14 PM
Abortion - by PIX - 08-18-2004, 05:35 PM
Abortion - by fritoman - 08-18-2004, 06:09 PM
Abortion - by GRITS - 08-18-2004, 06:28 PM
Abortion - by Quickening - 08-18-2004, 06:32 PM
Abortion - by evil_admin - 08-18-2004, 06:48 PM
Abortion - by FreeFall - 08-18-2004, 07:38 PM
Abortion - by PIX - 08-18-2004, 07:55 PM
Abortion - by evil_admin - 08-18-2004, 08:12 PM
Abortion - by Quickening - 08-18-2004, 08:16 PM
Abortion - by PIX - 08-18-2004, 08:28 PM
Abortion - by Gwarsbane - 08-18-2004, 08:54 PM
Abortion - by Wha? - 08-18-2004, 09:21 PM
Abortion - by Gwarsbane - 08-18-2004, 09:23 PM
Abortion - by Wha? - 08-18-2004, 09:31 PM
Abortion - by Miagi - 08-18-2004, 10:17 PM
Abortion - by PIX - 08-18-2004, 10:20 PM
Abortion - by FreeFall - 08-19-2004, 07:59 AM
Abortion - by PIX - 08-19-2004, 09:47 AM
Abortion - by evil_admin - 08-19-2004, 11:24 AM
Abortion - by PIX - 08-19-2004, 11:48 AM
Abortion - by [CAKE]anonymity - 08-19-2004, 07:07 PM
Abortion - by PIX - 08-19-2004, 09:09 PM
Abortion - by 16 - 08-19-2004, 11:48 PM
Abortion - by FreeFall - 08-20-2004, 05:54 AM
Abortion - by PIX - 08-20-2004, 09:44 AM
Abortion - by FreeFall - 08-21-2004, 07:02 AM
Abortion - by 16 - 08-22-2004, 12:53 AM
Abortion - by PIX - 08-22-2004, 09:09 AM
Abortion - by evil_admin - 08-22-2004, 11:03 AM
Abortion - by PIX - 08-22-2004, 03:07 PM
Abortion - by brokend - 08-22-2004, 03:30 PM
Abortion - by 16 - 08-22-2004, 09:31 PM
Abortion - by fritoman - 08-23-2004, 02:08 PM
Abortion - by SNOWDAWG - 08-23-2004, 05:35 PM

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