05-12-2003, 03:37 PM
Yes Beastie, I'm sticking to my guns on this.
As people know it takes quite a bit to get me pissed off. In posting the logs I show what it took to finally push me over the edge and ban someone.
You suggest to let them mess up their own lives, and I totally agree with that. If someone wants to screw them selves out of brain cells, go right ahead.
BUT the second that person comes into my life, I have the right to say what I feel. He was talking about drugs and drinking on a server that I have at least a little control over, so I gave him a temp ban. Time to clean up. Maybe time to read the posts here and have reality hit him.
If I had been on another server, I would have left. But I don't like being pushed off of a server like that as I know no one else would.
Ok, I could mute him. But I would still get half the conversation from others that are there. I could mute them too, but then I would miss the fun comments like "Weeeeeeee" or hey that was a fun ride" or something like that. I don't want to mute people just because they are talking to someone else about drugs.
After a while all the people I mute would think that I don't like them because I'm not answering their questions. As an admin I can't really just mute people, I have to be able to hear the whole conversation.
I never said take the community away from him for good. I just said that if you know hes high or drunk to just not play him. Maybe help get it through his mind that he has a problem since hes taking anti-depressant drugs, while drinking AND smoking weed at the same time. If hes high and drinking all the time then he has even bigger problems and really should seek out help and since we are a community as you pointed out, we should do something to help him since we can't be physically there for him.
He came into a place where I like to hang out because of some GREAT people. I will not be the one to leave when they start acting like he was. Its like the drugies, hookers and pimps that come into a community and basically take it over. I will not let that happen to the Ricochet community.
GRITS always knows that if I go too far that she can tell me to stand down on a topic and I will. People talking about drugs and drinking on the server is an example. I brought up that I think we should have a rule against talking about stuff like that on the server. We all talked about it, but did not bring in the rule. I have not taken any action against anyone for talking about that stuff on servers.
Acid made personal attacks towards me, the fact that he was doing drugs and drinking was the main cause of it as when he wasn't high or doing drugs he didn't say stuff like that.
As people know it takes quite a bit to get me pissed off. In posting the logs I show what it took to finally push me over the edge and ban someone.
You suggest to let them mess up their own lives, and I totally agree with that. If someone wants to screw them selves out of brain cells, go right ahead.
BUT the second that person comes into my life, I have the right to say what I feel. He was talking about drugs and drinking on a server that I have at least a little control over, so I gave him a temp ban. Time to clean up. Maybe time to read the posts here and have reality hit him.
If I had been on another server, I would have left. But I don't like being pushed off of a server like that as I know no one else would.
Ok, I could mute him. But I would still get half the conversation from others that are there. I could mute them too, but then I would miss the fun comments like "Weeeeeeee" or hey that was a fun ride" or something like that. I don't want to mute people just because they are talking to someone else about drugs.
After a while all the people I mute would think that I don't like them because I'm not answering their questions. As an admin I can't really just mute people, I have to be able to hear the whole conversation.
I never said take the community away from him for good. I just said that if you know hes high or drunk to just not play him. Maybe help get it through his mind that he has a problem since hes taking anti-depressant drugs, while drinking AND smoking weed at the same time. If hes high and drinking all the time then he has even bigger problems and really should seek out help and since we are a community as you pointed out, we should do something to help him since we can't be physically there for him.
He came into a place where I like to hang out because of some GREAT people. I will not be the one to leave when they start acting like he was. Its like the drugies, hookers and pimps that come into a community and basically take it over. I will not let that happen to the Ricochet community.
GRITS always knows that if I go too far that she can tell me to stand down on a topic and I will. People talking about drugs and drinking on the server is an example. I brought up that I think we should have a rule against talking about stuff like that on the server. We all talked about it, but did not bring in the rule. I have not taken any action against anyone for talking about that stuff on servers.
Acid made personal attacks towards me, the fact that he was doing drugs and drinking was the main cause of it as when he wasn't high or doing drugs he didn't say stuff like that.