This is what I sent to GRITS| over mIRC... it's not edited.. so enjoy.
<CloudFuel> I want it, if it's not like pique's idea, to be like this.
<CloudFuel> almost like football
<CloudFuel> I would also like a committee that has admins and players who are vital to the success of the league
<CloudFuel> so have someone in charge of the website/hosting
<CloudFuel> someone in charge of tallying all of the ranks and whatnot
<CloudFuel> someone in charge of disciplinary actions - ie ref
<CloudFuel> someone in charge of all emails and contacts, a liason if you will with the league members
<CloudFuel> and whatever else you think we need
<CloudFuel> First thing is to have as MANY people that are interested sign up as we can
<CloudFuel> say we get... 27 players in all
<CloudFuel> we have all of their info from them.. ie - email address, aim sn, best availability times, playing name, current clan (if any), time zone, and world location
<CloudFuel> Then we all decide how we would like to categorize the players
<CloudFuel> I suggested the whole "region" concept
<CloudFuel> I say region because it'll
<CloudFuel> A) be like soccer where you have region setups
<CloudFuel> B) you can have players host their own matches and have somewhat decent if not AWESOME ping ratios.
<CloudFuel> So let's say we have 27 players.. that really sucks because it's not an even number, but we'll make it work.
<CloudFuel> so with 27 players.. let's say 19 are from the US and 8 from Europe
<CloudFuel> then we break down the US players, because Europe already has a good solid number at 8
<CloudFuel> say 12 are from the western US
<CloudFuel> and 7 are from Eastern US
<CloudFuel> so we might break the west into 6/6
<CloudFuel> leave the east at 7
<CloudFuel> and have europe be 8
<CloudFuel> so now we have west US, midwest US, east US, and Europe respectively
<CloudFuel> 4 regions, holding no more than 8 players a piece and no less than 6, for a total of 27 in all
<CloudFuel> now we have to decide... how many matches do we want to have.. and how long do we want to give the players to have each match?
<CloudFuel> we'd have to be extremely strict
<CloudFuel> in that.. if you don't play your match by the said day, it's a forfeit
<CloudFuel> no.. well we'll extend it.. nothing... that's not fair to the players who played on time.
<CloudFuel> as far as forfeits go.. if one player is actively trying to make something happen and the other player is not.. then we can award the player who was trying an FW or forfeit WIN
<CloudFuel> and the player who was not trying gets an FL or forfeit loss
<CloudFuel> as far as scoring goes.. we could do a lot of things
<CloudFuel> or we could not do scoring at all
<CloudFuel> we could do like NFL with Win-Loss-Tie columns
<CloudFuel> or do a score for each win, loss, tie, forfeit win, and forfeit loss
<CloudFuel> or do both
<CloudFuel> that's something we'd have to decide on
<CloudFuel> but back to the amount of mathces we'd do
<CloudFuel> say we want to give them a whole week to do their matches
<CloudFuel> that's 7 days.
<CloudFuel> so then we say ok we want this to run for 10 weeks
<CloudFuel> that's then 10 matches in all to be played
<CloudFuel> perfection would be 10 - 0 - 0
<CloudFuel> granted we have to take into consideration if someone gets a ton of forfeit wins, then he/she may not be as deserving as someone who straight up won.. thus why scoring could seriously help
<CloudFuel> ok so 10 matches for the regular season.
<CloudFuel> Now I was thinking we do ONLY inner region matches
<CloudFuel> that would be another topic to discuss
<CloudFuel> if we do ONLY inner region
<CloudFuel> then that means we have the following
<CloudFuel> week 1 - region US west -
<CloudFuel> players 1 - 6 play 1 match a piece
<CloudFuel> and as far as choosing who plays who.. I'd say just number them 1 - 6 and pick numbers out of a hat.. or do a randomizer.. anything
<CloudFuel> I do NOT want to depict fights... like Acid vs. gemakk
<CloudFuel> or anything like that
<CloudFuel> no fight picking at all for me
<CloudFuel> ok so we do this for all of the regions
<CloudFuel> now week 1 is finished
<CloudFuel> hopefully we had no forfeits
<CloudFuel> if we do.. that makes things annoying
<CloudFuel> so let's say we do.. then if we're going along with the scoring (point based) and breakdown (win-loss-tie) methods
<CloudFuel> we can give the play who had a forfeit win a certain amount of points and put a 1 in the win column
<CloudFuel> at the end of the season we take the top 3 from each region
<CloudFuel> or some determined number
<CloudFuel> and then they go onto the playoffs
<CloudFuel> where we can either do it NFL style where we have each region play its people for the region winner
<CloudFuel> and then each regional winner plays each other for the title
<CloudFuel> or do a free for all
<CloudFuel> where we just randomly create battles with no subjectiveness included
<CloudFuel> once again.. another topic to discuss
<CloudFuel> then we move to our playoffs
<CloudFuel> so back to our 27 players rule
<CloudFuel> we have 6, 6, 7, and 8 for our regions
<CloudFuel> we take the top 2 I guess from each region
<CloudFuel> and we determine this by one or two things
<CloudFuel> either overall standings (ie win-loss-tie)
<CloudFuel> overall score (where each win, loss, tie, forfeit win, and forfeit loss give you X amount of points)
<CloudFuel> or a combo of both
<CloudFuel> and then like I said before.. we can either have each region play out til there's a winner.. or throw all of the players into the mix for a tourney style playoffs.
<CloudFuel> We could choose single or double elimination... another topic to discuss.
<CloudFuel> Then they play til we have a winner.
<CloudFuel> As far as ranking goes:
<CloudFuel> I would think we would have ranks only based per region
<CloudFuel> but if you want we could do it across the board.. though it wouldn't really reflect accurate standings until later in the season
<CloudFuel> the reason for this is pretty obvious... certain players may be playing only easier players right off the bat while others are not.. and so on.
<CloudFuel> Problems that could occur:
<CloudFuel> by doing it region-wise... or really having any seperation in brackets.
<CloudFuel> we may run into the problem of say the US WEST having better players that the US EAST or visa versa or something else all together.
<CloudFuel> and since we're taking the top 2 from each region or bracket.
<CloudFuel> maybe some players get left out that deserved to be in the playoffs
<CloudFuel> this problem happens sometimes in football as well
<CloudFuel> a team is better in the AFC than a team in the NFC
<CloudFuel> but there are better teams in the AFC than said team
<CloudFuel> so said team does not make playoffs
<CloudFuel> while lesser teams in the NFC do make it
<CloudFuel> but in the end.. the winner is still the same
<CloudFuel> so minus those who care about meaningless ranks... the outcome is the only important issue here.
<CloudFuel> and that's pretty much it.
Obviously there is a lot of push and pull room... a lot of floor open for ideas. I am not completely opposed to pique's idea either. I like the whole concept of being able to CHOOSE when you want to move up and all the pressure is created by yourself and no one else. Either one... I'm not too partial to either, but I'd like to see something started though. I'm obviously interested in being a part of creation/running of this league.. and I guess it's just a matter of seeing who else would like to do so as well as who all would be interested in joining the league.
Acid posted a link in this forum for the poll he has started., but I think a link on both of vad's servers, the J|W server, and the DTC server, as well as on the mIRC channels would also help quite a bit. This gives us an idea of what we're looking at.. I say if we get anything less than 20, then it's not worth it, but that's just me. :thumb:
<CloudFuel> I want it, if it's not like pique's idea, to be like this.
<CloudFuel> almost like football
<CloudFuel> I would also like a committee that has admins and players who are vital to the success of the league
<CloudFuel> so have someone in charge of the website/hosting
<CloudFuel> someone in charge of tallying all of the ranks and whatnot
<CloudFuel> someone in charge of disciplinary actions - ie ref
<CloudFuel> someone in charge of all emails and contacts, a liason if you will with the league members
<CloudFuel> and whatever else you think we need
<CloudFuel> First thing is to have as MANY people that are interested sign up as we can
<CloudFuel> say we get... 27 players in all
<CloudFuel> we have all of their info from them.. ie - email address, aim sn, best availability times, playing name, current clan (if any), time zone, and world location
<CloudFuel> Then we all decide how we would like to categorize the players
<CloudFuel> I suggested the whole "region" concept
<CloudFuel> I say region because it'll
<CloudFuel> A) be like soccer where you have region setups
<CloudFuel> B) you can have players host their own matches and have somewhat decent if not AWESOME ping ratios.
<CloudFuel> So let's say we have 27 players.. that really sucks because it's not an even number, but we'll make it work.
<CloudFuel> so with 27 players.. let's say 19 are from the US and 8 from Europe
<CloudFuel> then we break down the US players, because Europe already has a good solid number at 8
<CloudFuel> say 12 are from the western US
<CloudFuel> and 7 are from Eastern US
<CloudFuel> so we might break the west into 6/6
<CloudFuel> leave the east at 7
<CloudFuel> and have europe be 8
<CloudFuel> so now we have west US, midwest US, east US, and Europe respectively
<CloudFuel> 4 regions, holding no more than 8 players a piece and no less than 6, for a total of 27 in all
<CloudFuel> now we have to decide... how many matches do we want to have.. and how long do we want to give the players to have each match?
<CloudFuel> we'd have to be extremely strict
<CloudFuel> in that.. if you don't play your match by the said day, it's a forfeit
<CloudFuel> no.. well we'll extend it.. nothing... that's not fair to the players who played on time.
<CloudFuel> as far as forfeits go.. if one player is actively trying to make something happen and the other player is not.. then we can award the player who was trying an FW or forfeit WIN
<CloudFuel> and the player who was not trying gets an FL or forfeit loss
<CloudFuel> as far as scoring goes.. we could do a lot of things
<CloudFuel> or we could not do scoring at all
<CloudFuel> we could do like NFL with Win-Loss-Tie columns
<CloudFuel> or do a score for each win, loss, tie, forfeit win, and forfeit loss
<CloudFuel> or do both
<CloudFuel> that's something we'd have to decide on
<CloudFuel> but back to the amount of mathces we'd do
<CloudFuel> say we want to give them a whole week to do their matches
<CloudFuel> that's 7 days.
<CloudFuel> so then we say ok we want this to run for 10 weeks
<CloudFuel> that's then 10 matches in all to be played
<CloudFuel> perfection would be 10 - 0 - 0
<CloudFuel> granted we have to take into consideration if someone gets a ton of forfeit wins, then he/she may not be as deserving as someone who straight up won.. thus why scoring could seriously help
<CloudFuel> ok so 10 matches for the regular season.
<CloudFuel> Now I was thinking we do ONLY inner region matches
<CloudFuel> that would be another topic to discuss
<CloudFuel> if we do ONLY inner region
<CloudFuel> then that means we have the following
<CloudFuel> week 1 - region US west -
<CloudFuel> players 1 - 6 play 1 match a piece
<CloudFuel> and as far as choosing who plays who.. I'd say just number them 1 - 6 and pick numbers out of a hat.. or do a randomizer.. anything
<CloudFuel> I do NOT want to depict fights... like Acid vs. gemakk
<CloudFuel> or anything like that
<CloudFuel> no fight picking at all for me
<CloudFuel> ok so we do this for all of the regions
<CloudFuel> now week 1 is finished
<CloudFuel> hopefully we had no forfeits
<CloudFuel> if we do.. that makes things annoying
<CloudFuel> so let's say we do.. then if we're going along with the scoring (point based) and breakdown (win-loss-tie) methods
<CloudFuel> we can give the play who had a forfeit win a certain amount of points and put a 1 in the win column
<CloudFuel> at the end of the season we take the top 3 from each region
<CloudFuel> or some determined number
<CloudFuel> and then they go onto the playoffs
<CloudFuel> where we can either do it NFL style where we have each region play its people for the region winner
<CloudFuel> and then each regional winner plays each other for the title
<CloudFuel> or do a free for all
<CloudFuel> where we just randomly create battles with no subjectiveness included
<CloudFuel> once again.. another topic to discuss
<CloudFuel> then we move to our playoffs
<CloudFuel> so back to our 27 players rule
<CloudFuel> we have 6, 6, 7, and 8 for our regions
<CloudFuel> we take the top 2 I guess from each region
<CloudFuel> and we determine this by one or two things
<CloudFuel> either overall standings (ie win-loss-tie)
<CloudFuel> overall score (where each win, loss, tie, forfeit win, and forfeit loss give you X amount of points)
<CloudFuel> or a combo of both
<CloudFuel> and then like I said before.. we can either have each region play out til there's a winner.. or throw all of the players into the mix for a tourney style playoffs.
<CloudFuel> We could choose single or double elimination... another topic to discuss.
<CloudFuel> Then they play til we have a winner.
<CloudFuel> As far as ranking goes:
<CloudFuel> I would think we would have ranks only based per region
<CloudFuel> but if you want we could do it across the board.. though it wouldn't really reflect accurate standings until later in the season
<CloudFuel> the reason for this is pretty obvious... certain players may be playing only easier players right off the bat while others are not.. and so on.
<CloudFuel> Problems that could occur:
<CloudFuel> by doing it region-wise... or really having any seperation in brackets.
<CloudFuel> we may run into the problem of say the US WEST having better players that the US EAST or visa versa or something else all together.
<CloudFuel> and since we're taking the top 2 from each region or bracket.
<CloudFuel> maybe some players get left out that deserved to be in the playoffs
<CloudFuel> this problem happens sometimes in football as well
<CloudFuel> a team is better in the AFC than a team in the NFC
<CloudFuel> but there are better teams in the AFC than said team
<CloudFuel> so said team does not make playoffs
<CloudFuel> while lesser teams in the NFC do make it
<CloudFuel> but in the end.. the winner is still the same
<CloudFuel> so minus those who care about meaningless ranks... the outcome is the only important issue here.
<CloudFuel> and that's pretty much it.
Obviously there is a lot of push and pull room... a lot of floor open for ideas. I am not completely opposed to pique's idea either. I like the whole concept of being able to CHOOSE when you want to move up and all the pressure is created by yourself and no one else. Either one... I'm not too partial to either, but I'd like to see something started though. I'm obviously interested in being a part of creation/running of this league.. and I guess it's just a matter of seeing who else would like to do so as well as who all would be interested in joining the league.
Acid posted a link in this forum for the poll he has started., but I think a link on both of vad's servers, the J|W server, and the DTC server, as well as on the mIRC channels would also help quite a bit. This gives us an idea of what we're looking at.. I say if we get anything less than 20, then it's not worth it, but that's just me. :thumb: