08-18-2004, 08:54 PM
Actually this is a private board that is open to the public. If we ask that you not preach here then you need to respect that.
Now back on topic.
You say that the baby did no wrong (which is correct) when a girl/woman is raped so it should be born. But you TOTALLY ignored the fact that the girl/woman is raped that she never asked to be raped. Anyone who is raped (male or female) have a hard enough time trying to not think about what happened to them. Don't you think that it could hurt that woman mentally knowing every day for nine months that there is someone inside her that she did not willfully want with that person? And then once the baby is born even if she don't keep the baby she will know for the rest of her life that someone that was not born out of love is out in the world.
I know for a fact that if I was a woman and was raped, I would not want a child to come from me who was not concieved out of love.
As to physically harming the woman and preventing pregnancy later... sure if you use a clothes hanger for the abortion which they don't.
Most of the time today if its with in a few days of being raped they give some pills to cause the lining to come off of the inner wall of the uterus which normally happens each month anyway when a woman is not pregnant. Usually in that time the sperm and egg have not even come close to each other.
There are other abortion metheds and some of them I don't agree with at all, but if it saves a womans life then I say go for it, but only if it really really needs to be done and as long as she says ok (unless shes in a coma or something and can't then someone else might have to).
Did you ever think that god determined that we should have free will so that we can decide stuff like this.
If its him/her/it that determines when we return to him/her/it then why did god give humans the free will to develop stuff like abortion?
Also the books that you claim as "a very reliable handbook" was only started about 2000 years ago (by a human) and has been rewritten so many times that its not even the same handbook as the one that was first made. Sure some parts are the same but most of it is totoally different.
The only reason you can say that abortion is bad is because some book that some man wrote for others that believed the same way he did says so. I have not seen any proof that there is or that there isn't a god. I have seen no proof either that said god passed down him/her/its word to some guy to write down in a book.
And also because you don't like it now.
The only reason I can say that abortion is ok (not good but not bad) is because I believe in a persons free will to choose what happens to their own body.
Now back on topic.
You say that the baby did no wrong (which is correct) when a girl/woman is raped so it should be born. But you TOTALLY ignored the fact that the girl/woman is raped that she never asked to be raped. Anyone who is raped (male or female) have a hard enough time trying to not think about what happened to them. Don't you think that it could hurt that woman mentally knowing every day for nine months that there is someone inside her that she did not willfully want with that person? And then once the baby is born even if she don't keep the baby she will know for the rest of her life that someone that was not born out of love is out in the world.
I know for a fact that if I was a woman and was raped, I would not want a child to come from me who was not concieved out of love.
Quote:it's bad because it harms the woman mentally by filling her with tremendous guilt later down the road and in many cases, physically harming the woman and preventing pregnancy later.As I said above it would hurt a women just as much mentally to be reminded EVERY SINGLE DAY that she was violated, maybe even more so.
As to physically harming the woman and preventing pregnancy later... sure if you use a clothes hanger for the abortion which they don't.
Most of the time today if its with in a few days of being raped they give some pills to cause the lining to come off of the inner wall of the uterus which normally happens each month anyway when a woman is not pregnant. Usually in that time the sperm and egg have not even come close to each other.
There are other abortion metheds and some of them I don't agree with at all, but if it saves a womans life then I say go for it, but only if it really really needs to be done and as long as she says ok (unless shes in a coma or something and can't then someone else might have to).
Quote:However, it is up to God to determine when and how a child is to return to Him, not us
Did you ever think that god determined that we should have free will so that we can decide stuff like this.
If its him/her/it that determines when we return to him/her/it then why did god give humans the free will to develop stuff like abortion?
Also the books that you claim as "a very reliable handbook" was only started about 2000 years ago (by a human) and has been rewritten so many times that its not even the same handbook as the one that was first made. Sure some parts are the same but most of it is totoally different.
The only reason you can say that abortion is bad is because some book that some man wrote for others that believed the same way he did says so. I have not seen any proof that there is or that there isn't a god. I have seen no proof either that said god passed down him/her/its word to some guy to write down in a book.
And also because you don't like it now.
The only reason I can say that abortion is ok (not good but not bad) is because I believe in a persons free will to choose what happens to their own body.