04-21-2004, 07:30 PM
Didn't say science was the answer to existence, I see that more as a pondering of philosophy combined with findings from science. So... you're saying you don't agree with findings that the homo genus has been around for more than 6000 years? In fact, WAY more than 6000. I guess dinosaurs were gone around 10,000 years instead of about 65 million? The Earth is less than 4 billion years old? Again, numbers and such change, we may find different numbers from different methods, and in no way is science infallible... if you read at all what I wrote, I said that science always will have problems and there are no absolute truths, it's up to use to interpret and come up with best explanations, and this is what we come up with, these ages and these theories.
I didn't say anything about mammals coming from birds, they didn't, at least not according to the current models of evolutionary pathways. Dinosaurs have very little relationship to reptiles that we know of, so I'm not talking about a robin coming from a python. We're talking about looking at a certain type of dinosaur (like raptors and tyrannosaurs... not sauropods) that moved very much like birds do. No intermediates? Ever heard of an archeopteryx? Essentially the first bird and very real evidence for the transition from raptor-like dinosaurs to a nice juicy chicken. Birds are essentially feathered dinosaurs. I'd break out my geology notes to get all of the scientific terms, but I'm too lazy. You also have to look at traits, not just intermediate species... not every fossil survives, you need certain conditions, so many animals have existed without our knowledge. Fur, livebirth, bipedal, these are different traits that you observe from animal to animal, and patterns emerge that are explained by evolution. Evolution is not perfect. It doesn't have all the answers. But it gives us a pretty damn good idea about how things have existed on this planet and how they progress. Even plants... first fossils show they needed to be immersed in water. Then they developed flowering and seeds to be able to multiply without being in aqueous conditions. Obvious pattern of very primitive to very complex. So God is up there working on different models that keep getting more complex so every few million years he plants a new one? They aren't adapting to survive their surroundings? To have success and not be eliminated?
I didn't say anything about mammals coming from birds, they didn't, at least not according to the current models of evolutionary pathways. Dinosaurs have very little relationship to reptiles that we know of, so I'm not talking about a robin coming from a python. We're talking about looking at a certain type of dinosaur (like raptors and tyrannosaurs... not sauropods) that moved very much like birds do. No intermediates? Ever heard of an archeopteryx? Essentially the first bird and very real evidence for the transition from raptor-like dinosaurs to a nice juicy chicken. Birds are essentially feathered dinosaurs. I'd break out my geology notes to get all of the scientific terms, but I'm too lazy. You also have to look at traits, not just intermediate species... not every fossil survives, you need certain conditions, so many animals have existed without our knowledge. Fur, livebirth, bipedal, these are different traits that you observe from animal to animal, and patterns emerge that are explained by evolution. Evolution is not perfect. It doesn't have all the answers. But it gives us a pretty damn good idea about how things have existed on this planet and how they progress. Even plants... first fossils show they needed to be immersed in water. Then they developed flowering and seeds to be able to multiply without being in aqueous conditions. Obvious pattern of very primitive to very complex. So God is up there working on different models that keep getting more complex so every few million years he plants a new one? They aren't adapting to survive their surroundings? To have success and not be eliminated?