03-20-2003, 01:23 AM
Countries that have used WMDs is more then just the US. I think you are only thinking that Nukes are WMDs. They are not the only ones...
Germany with mustard gas in WW1 out on the battlefield. (actually a few countries in WW1 but can't remember which ones except for germany)
Iraq with nerve and mustard gas on the kerds 15 years ago this week
US with 2 nukes on 2 Japanese cities.
Now which of those countries actually warned people before they used those weapons? The US did. For 3 days before they dropped the bomb, they warned the 2 cities with leaflets to get out of the citys as they would be destroying them. Could they have uses it on an unpopulated area, sure, but the effect would not have been the same.
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Country with the largest stockpile of WMDs.. I'd have to say Russia and the US are tied in this. Chalk it up to the cold war. Both sides are disarming a good number of them, the UN from my understanding has been watching this.
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Country that threatens using WMDs, North Korea, India, Pakistan (the last 2 against each other) and a few others.
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Country threatened to disarm or else: Iraq, North Korea (thou to a lesser extent)
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Whos sons are well known for killing people: Saddam's sons are. It has been documented that they have killed many people. For what reasons I don't know. One of them is also very well known for having his way with women, wheather they want to or not.
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Countries that have attacked other nations with no warning and for no reason but to take them over: Iraq, North Korea and many others.
I was 14 when Iraq tried to take over Kuwait. I remember seeing all the news reports of what was happening there. The Iraq Military, after basically loosing the war to Iran (or at least it being a tie) turned around and attacked Kuwait. Why? They only reason was because they were much smaller then Iraq and had just about as much oil wealth.
And what did they do when they took over Kuwait... raped women and children and looted. Sounds like they had a real good cause didn't they.
I don't think that they thought the US would have done anything as it was the US that supplied them with most of their weapons to fight Iran, thou it was all back door trading from my understanding.
Those are all facts you can go look them up in books or on the net. I'm sure I have a few details wrong, but most are right.
Now for my personal view of what is going on...
I would have liked the UN to have backed the US/UK/ AU going in as it would have shown that they have the backbone to back their own resolutions that they themselves passed many years ago that basically said disarm or else.
Well over the years Iraq (Saddam) has kept feeding little bits of stuff here and there to keep the UN satisfied. (No we have no gas bombs... well ok we had gas bombs but we destroyed them... well ok we didn't destroy all of them but most of them.... well ok we didn't destroy most of them but some of them..) and thats how it was going year after year. Not just gas bombs, but missles that can go further then 150km and amany other things.
Look at what happened when the UN had a back bone for a bit and said give us all those papers within so many days or else we'll sick the US on you. With in the given time Iraq produced the papers.
They should not have stopped when they did the first time. They should have gone in and removed Saddam and his sons the first time around.
Do I feel bad for the people of Iraq, heck ya. I wish we could just go in and remove Saddam and his sons without anyone else getting killed.
I hate saying this, but I hope Saddam attackes with gas and stuff just so that Bush can say "I told you so" to everyone that does not believe him.
I think we will also see him blow up the oil stuff. What good will that do but maybe slow down the US a little and let his peoples money flow into the desert.
And yes people take it easy in here. This section was created specifically with debates in mind, after all just look at the warning **(Just remember you enter this section at your own risk as debates can get VERY heated)**, but remember that kids read these too. No one needs to do any sort of personal attacks or swearing. Just state you opionion. What I did above was to clearify some facts.
Germany with mustard gas in WW1 out on the battlefield. (actually a few countries in WW1 but can't remember which ones except for germany)
Iraq with nerve and mustard gas on the kerds 15 years ago this week
US with 2 nukes on 2 Japanese cities.
Now which of those countries actually warned people before they used those weapons? The US did. For 3 days before they dropped the bomb, they warned the 2 cities with leaflets to get out of the citys as they would be destroying them. Could they have uses it on an unpopulated area, sure, but the effect would not have been the same.
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Country with the largest stockpile of WMDs.. I'd have to say Russia and the US are tied in this. Chalk it up to the cold war. Both sides are disarming a good number of them, the UN from my understanding has been watching this.
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Country that threatens using WMDs, North Korea, India, Pakistan (the last 2 against each other) and a few others.
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Country threatened to disarm or else: Iraq, North Korea (thou to a lesser extent)
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Whos sons are well known for killing people: Saddam's sons are. It has been documented that they have killed many people. For what reasons I don't know. One of them is also very well known for having his way with women, wheather they want to or not.
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Countries that have attacked other nations with no warning and for no reason but to take them over: Iraq, North Korea and many others.
I was 14 when Iraq tried to take over Kuwait. I remember seeing all the news reports of what was happening there. The Iraq Military, after basically loosing the war to Iran (or at least it being a tie) turned around and attacked Kuwait. Why? They only reason was because they were much smaller then Iraq and had just about as much oil wealth.
And what did they do when they took over Kuwait... raped women and children and looted. Sounds like they had a real good cause didn't they.
I don't think that they thought the US would have done anything as it was the US that supplied them with most of their weapons to fight Iran, thou it was all back door trading from my understanding.
Those are all facts you can go look them up in books or on the net. I'm sure I have a few details wrong, but most are right.
Now for my personal view of what is going on...
I would have liked the UN to have backed the US/UK/ AU going in as it would have shown that they have the backbone to back their own resolutions that they themselves passed many years ago that basically said disarm or else.
Well over the years Iraq (Saddam) has kept feeding little bits of stuff here and there to keep the UN satisfied. (No we have no gas bombs... well ok we had gas bombs but we destroyed them... well ok we didn't destroy all of them but most of them.... well ok we didn't destroy most of them but some of them..) and thats how it was going year after year. Not just gas bombs, but missles that can go further then 150km and amany other things.
Look at what happened when the UN had a back bone for a bit and said give us all those papers within so many days or else we'll sick the US on you. With in the given time Iraq produced the papers.
They should not have stopped when they did the first time. They should have gone in and removed Saddam and his sons the first time around.
Do I feel bad for the people of Iraq, heck ya. I wish we could just go in and remove Saddam and his sons without anyone else getting killed.
I hate saying this, but I hope Saddam attackes with gas and stuff just so that Bush can say "I told you so" to everyone that does not believe him.
I think we will also see him blow up the oil stuff. What good will that do but maybe slow down the US a little and let his peoples money flow into the desert.
And yes people take it easy in here. This section was created specifically with debates in mind, after all just look at the warning **(Just remember you enter this section at your own risk as debates can get VERY heated)**, but remember that kids read these too. No one needs to do any sort of personal attacks or swearing. Just state you opionion. What I did above was to clearify some facts.